Anything You Can Do We Can Do Better – On the Baritone Saxophone
This guest post comes to us from Andrew Hadro, a professional baritone saxophonist, educator, and curator of THE definitive baritone saxophone destination on the web, JazzBariSax.com.
After years of being a professional baritone saxophonist, I still can’t shake people’s persistent assumptions that the baritone saxophone is a lesser instrument.
A Bum Rap
This myth has understandable – if unfortunate – roots in popular perception. The only place most people see a baritone saxophone is in a rock horn section or anchoring a big band. It is rarely used as a soloing instrument or as part of smaller, more flexible groups. Perhaps most perniciously, it is often believed that this horn is somehow harder to play, or less agile than its smaller counterparts. It’s unclear which came first, the baritone sax’s under-representation in small groups, or the assumption of its sluggishness. But it’s all hogwash, anyway: there is actually no reason why the baritone should not be featured in smaller groups, and aside from some incidental truths about the horn being physically larger, it is not any harder to play or less agile.
Saxation without Representation
Early on in the history of jazz you begin to see a basis for the unfair aspersions cast on the baritone. Simply put, there was no baritone champion among the coterie of musicians who created and popularized jazz. The trumpet has Miles Davis and Dizzy Gillespie, not to mention Louis Armstrong. The alto has Charlie Parker. Tenor saxophonists can claim John Coltrane as part of their lineage. Sure, there were baritone saxophonists around and playing back when these other musicians made their name, but none transcended to this exclusive and sanctified group.
The most vaunted of the jazz baritone saxophonists, Gerry Mulligan, was around and performing at the same time as many of the jazz giants. Mulligan had much success and certainly some hits, and no one can really say he was underrated or under-appreciated, but even he did not climb his way to the pantheon of untouchable jazz greats. This Olympus is presided over by Charlie Parker, and its members are fiercely guarded and promoted (perhaps even over-aggrandized) by modern jazz education.
The Big Band Bari Brotherhood
Since jazz education these days generally means sax sections and big band charts, let’s take a look at the love-hate relationship that exists between the baritone and the big band. Historically, many of the greatest baritone players have had very close bonds with big bands. Harry Carney, often considered father of the baritone sax’s sound, will always be associated with the Duke Ellington Orchestra. Duke knew how to write for the baritone and utilized not only the rumbling brilliance of Carney’s low end, but also the sweet luxurious tone of his upper register, often placing the baritone’s voice above the entire band. Alas, Harry Carney’s strengths lay in the subtle nuances that helped make the band the legendary. He was reportedly not fond of improvising, took few solos, and recorded very few times as a leader. He never struck out to make his own name, and from his teens until his death shortly after that of Duke’s, his leader and friend, he never left his station solidly anchoring the big band.
Pepper Adams played for years with the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Orchestra, and could certainly hold his own with any other saxophonist to ever join that group. (He eventually struck out on his own to pursue smaller groups and greater improvisatory offers, one of the few baritone players to do so.) Gerry Mulligan, who made his name playing in small groups and was never seen playing with anyone else’s big band, eventually started his own big band, featuring himself out front. Yet even in a baritone saxophonist’s big band there was another poor baritone player doomed to do nothing but play section parts.
Ah, section parts of a big band—here truly we explore the hate portion of this relationship. In western music the lower registers are generally used for bass notes, tonics related to the harmony, and other slower moving purposes. In an orchestra the string bases are lower and physically bigger, as is the tuba. These instruments are larger, lower and definitely not as agile as their smaller counterparts. As such, western music has developed in a way that lower instruments rarely tend to have as much movement as the higher pitched ones. Applied to a big band, this means that despite having a brilliant key system allowing them to play as quickly as the other saxophones (see below for more on this), the baritone is left with a lot of whole notes or “footballs” as they are somewhat in-affectionately referred to. Solos or changes for blowing rarely find their way into the baritone parts.
Given this trend of western harmony, when the watered down, bland charts passed off as high school big band arrangements reach the students, there is hardly anything left to keep a baritone player from wandering off in search of something shiny to look at. As such, band directors now have tendency to put a baritone in the hands of the perhaps less focused (read: talented) students, thinking the baritone parts may be more appropriate to their level. These students are then handed beat-up, barely functioning, horns that were probably poorly made in the first place. Obviously this exacerbates the problem and makes an unfair assumption self-fulfilling.
The Brawny Baritone
Now let’s get right to the nitty-gritty: Is the baritone harder to play? It’s bigger; it must be slower, right? How much more air does that thing take?
The physical properties of the instrument cannot be denied. In fact, as I write this, I am seated on an airplane headed for the next gig after having had to break down and plead shamelessly to allow my instrument on board instead of seeing it tossed underneath because of its size.
Does it take more air? Yes, of course it does. But any saxophonist with the proper diaphragm control, air support, embouchure, set-up, etc. can play the baritone without noticing too much more taxation on their air supply. Likewise, the way the keys are designed, they are only slightly more spaced out (relative to each hand) than a tenor. The mechanisms, keys, and levers, are not significantly harder to press and activate than the other saxophones (assuming your horn is in decent repair). Most importantly, as far as range goes, the baritone saxophone’s usable range is far greater than any of its smaller brethren – even without the addition of a low A attachment.
Altissimo is at least as easy on the baritone (I find it much easier), and far more usable. Take an alto playing an altissimo D. In the hands of all but the most adept musician this is a note that makes babies cry. Now, a baritone’s altissimo D—assuming it’s played in tune, and with a nice tone—is the same as an alto’s high D (the baritone being exactly an octave lower). This is not objectively all that high—the baritone has a full additional octave to work with, without even surpassing the alto’s standard range. Obviously, it takes years of practice to use altissimo effectively, smoothly, and cleanly, but that is true of all saxophones. And in the end, the fruits of that labor are more plentiful on the baritone.
A Neglected Child
The perception of the baritone saxophone can even make it an uphill battle just to find the right equipment. Players who like vintage horns have a hard time finding a decent horn in good condition, simply because its size causes it to be damaged far more often. Players who like newer horns are even worse off. Horn manufactures rarely pay as much attention to their baritone lines, assuming they even make one – many opt to only make altos and tenors. Those who offer baritones rarely provide as many options, and honestly, rarely make them as well. Forget trying to get a horn manufacturer to make you a horn without a low A. Selmer’s baritone line is so far behind its other horns that they skipped the Mark VII altogether and began stamping what were to be Mark VII’s as Series I’s just to catch up. Mouthpieces and reeds are no better, though some brands are finally expanding their products to include the baritone. While it irks me to no end, I understand that from a financial point of view there is far less money to be made on baritones and therefore less reason to invest in the category.
Ignore the Horn at Your Own Peril
The truth is that the baritone can do what the other horns can, better or worse depending on the player and her dedication and talent. The harsh truth is that except for those who take the time to learn the horn and experience its beauty, the stereotypes and misconceptions will persist. When forming a quartet or quintet people rarely even consider anything other than the standard instrumentation. I am happy to do my best to disabuse people of their notions of the king of all horns, and at the moment I am fortunate there are people who ask me to play with their small groups. The harder I work and the better I can sound, the easier it will be for people to overcome their preconceived notion of the King of all Horns. As for now, I would like to say to all of you subway riders, fellow air-travellers and street-gawkers: No—this is not a cello, it’s a baritone saxophone and it’s going to melt your face off.
Jeff Rzepiela
February 21, 2011 @ 11:37 am
While I don’t play bari myself, as a lead alto player I’ll say that a great bari player is worth his or her weight in gold in the section. If the bari player is taking care of business, then the lead players job becomes so much easier. Having that support down below let’s you worry about the finer points of phrasing, articulation, dynamics, etc. Without a strong player in the bari chair, it’s like trying to drag the section through quicksand.
Jack Fearn
February 21, 2011 @ 4:49 pm
I agree that baritone players are fewer than other types of sax, but then they do require more of a commitment due to their price and size (I mean, mine takes up a decent part of a room just in it’s case) and many players aren’t prepared for that big jump. So I think that while alto/sop is great for students and tenor a reasonable compromise for older and more experienced players, baritone is just that one step too far for many.
Many people in the circuit won’t change for the lower instrument either, preferring to stick with the more acknowledged alto or tenor. What we need is a breakaway sax player to inspire us to all to brave the lower depths.
And I would challenge anyone to deny the fact that a good baritone can make any ballad sound 10 times better!
Edison Salvador
March 6, 2011 @ 2:16 pm
Challenge accepted!! :)
Edison Salvador
March 6, 2011 @ 2:19 pm
I worded that wrong! I am a bari player and I totally agree with that last statement. I always play ballads on the bari because it just sings from top to bottom. Especially my new bari!
- Lauren Sevian on the Baritone Sax, Greg Osby, Patience, and More
March 4, 2011 @ 3:05 pm
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Adam
January 6, 2012 @ 10:20 am
Your comment on the “footballs” in big band playing is not a characteristic of the music, it is a characteristic of lazy arrangers in a Sammy Nestico-ized arrangement world. The bari in the Big Band era frequently mirrors the lead alto down the octave. That means the bari’s are playing the main theme! Nothing boring or footballish about that. Don’t blame the music, blame the lazy arrangers.
Adam
Big Band Bari Player/Bandleader and loving it.
Doron Orenstein
January 17, 2012 @ 2:35 pm
I didn’t write this article myself, but you bring up an interesting point. I think that there are a lot of cool ways to employ the bari in a big band setting, and sometimes those “footballs” sound really cool. In my opinion, it’s about what’s best for the music, not for the individual player. That said, I think it’s important for arrangers to be creative in how they write their bari parts and not resort to the same old tired effects on every arrangement.
Thanks for chiming in Adam!
rodney
February 8, 2012 @ 12:42 pm
baritone saxophone can be and to me is one of the most melodic instrument’s ,i play alto/tenor/clarinete / and of course baritone. like anything you do in music it deserves practice and attention, and perhaps a slightly more focused umbersure ,iv’e done big-band recording’s at my home studio’ of classics such as the very old saxophobia as a cha cha and the bari stand’s out and take’s a bow when he’s finished, of course it’s imperative that arrangements are good;
thanks. rod deery.
Doron Orenstein
February 8, 2012 @ 1:48 pm
Hey Rodney! I’ve never really thought about the embouchure differences for baritone, but I could see that perhaps the bigger mouthpiece means that you have more to control in terms of focusing the air into the horn in the most efficient way. Feel free to elaborate if you wish. Thanks for chiming in!
rodney
February 9, 2012 @ 10:55 am
hello doron,
again that work’s for me but i can remember year’s ago when i started on saxophone this is very important, load’s of player’s spend an inundated fortune on sax mouth-peaces and 7 times out of ten the one there useing would be fine with perseverance, i use a very old ottolink 7star on the bari, it’s fine top and bottom a, even altissmo , if needed and i keep my ligature fairly slack it’s important as you well no to give the reed vibrating scope hope this info is of use.
kind regard’s rod.
Larry Weintraub
March 30, 2012 @ 8:24 pm
I am primarily a tenor/clar player. However I did play bari in both Army & Navy Big Bands and Show Bands. I really dug it. Not all the parts are football notes. Anytime there is a sax soli the bari is either doubling the lead alto sounding an octave lower or in the case of some arrangers like Lennie Niehaus the bari is playing a 5th harmony part. You know 5 way chords instead of 4 way chords w/a doubled lead.
Here is what I liked. As stated sometimes the bari is w/the sax section in a soli. Sometimes it is playing counter lines, either independently or with the bass bone or the bass player. That makes the part interesting. Yeah I know playing a bunch of whole & half notes is boring. But from the bari chair you can really hear how the chords are going.
I know that the tenor and alto get more solos. However I have had my share of bari solos and features w/big bands. The bari sounds great on blues solos. Also I have been featured on both Bob Florence’s bari feature on “Ald Lange Syne” (which is nothing like Guy Lombardo’s) and Dave Wolpe’s bari feature on “Sophisticated Lady”. On the same chart the bari has the lead on the sax soli playing boppish lines.
So while I love tenor I also really loved playing bari. To bad I do not own one. It’s way to expensive.
Doron Orenstein
March 31, 2012 @ 5:24 pm
You’re right, Bari is awesome for the blues (just ask Lisa Simpson!). I recently got a James Carter album and he plays the hell out of the blues on Bari.
Al Haney
March 11, 2013 @ 7:20 pm
I disagree, I have found much interest from other musicians when they know I have a bari to add that something “else” to the mix. I also disagree on the agility. It’s not the spacing on the keys, it’s the increased travel to operate that key versus the smaller horns. It’s simple physics, I can live with it. The Bari has the unique gift of being able to play haunting melody lines, counter melody lines, as well as playing a bass line. I always make a point of asking the bass player if he doubles on another instrument and offer to give give him chance to switch while I cover the bass line on some tunes. I was fortunate In high school stage band to have a real hip N.texas St 1 o clock lab band director who asked this clarinet player if he wanted to play Bari in their band. And then was handed a 1 year old Selmar mark 6. God I wish I still had that horn! I spent a lot of time in the practice rooms and was rewarded with GREAT bari parts for the most part. I was the de facto section leader, often doubling the 1st Alto players part during sax feature runs.I also was given as many improvisation opportunities as the 1st tenor and alto players. These early experiences have shaped my playing for the last 35 years, The bari fits where you make it fit, and will do what you want to make it do, and I will play it until I can’t pick that damn heavy YBS61 up any more.
Larry Weintraub
March 11, 2013 @ 9:28 pm
Al: Glad your enjoying playing bari. As stated I was the bari player at various times in both my Army and Navy Bands. I really dug it. People think the bari can’t do a lot of things and the worst guy is always on bari. Not true you need a strong player to fill that horn up and play those parts correctly.
As mentioned I played some bari features w/both bands. You should look for Bob Florence’s arrangement of Auld Lange Syne, it’s a great bari feature w/an improvised bari chorus to boot. Wolpe’s chart on Sophisticated Lady does not have an improvised solo but the bari has the melody and plays lead over the sax section during the soli. I do not know if it is available for sale. It was in the book of a band I used to play with in Baltimore years ago and was given to me when I went into the Navy Band.
I played bari w/the Baltimore Big Band when we went to Germany by default. I was playing tenor but the person who owned the bari wasn’t making it and neither was one of the other sax players in the section. The leader knew I played it in the Army and said if the owner would let me play it would I agree to play it. I said yes.
My 1 regret, I was never able to afford a bari or a bass clarinet which I also played in the Navy for a bit. Anyway enjoy it and take care.
Larry W